Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

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Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Jackhead » 26. Juli 2012, 21:28

Today i got a wild card dx2 and i try to dump the Lufia 2 proto.
First i was wondering the proto has 40MBIT! retail is 20MBIT? :shock:
So i dump it in 8Mbit steps to the floppy. After that i use SNEStool to join the files.
When i now try to start the .FIG file with snes9x i got only corrupt sectors and so...

I need some help please... Its my first proto i like to dump.

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Evan_G » 30. Juli 2012, 13:17

If you'd like, I can have a look at your files to see if it dumped properly. A 40 Mb dump seems highly usual. I give you my assurance that I will not spread this file around without your permission.

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Jackhead » 2. August 2012, 20:29

to late at all. was my first snes proto and i do a mistake.
Got only "one" helping hand from a MESS member (many thanks!) and the proto is corrupt now...
Well at all my fault, but its very unlikely for snes scene...
RIP Lufia 2 Proto :x
I leave it to my contact releasing anything forward from the dump can be recovered.
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Moeki » 2. August 2012, 21:06

ouch ... :(
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von ChronoMoogle » 3. August 2012, 03:03

How can someone fiddle with something important like a unique proto in this way, when its his first time and he probably has no experience in handling cartridge eeproms? MottZilla shouldnt have told you to to dissassemble your cart. With the Retrode 2 there is a safe and good dumping method out there and instead he tells you to do THIS even though its your first dumping and the cart is more than unique and should be handled carefully. Okay, its also partly your fault because you went after his advice too easy.... but the Retrode 2 was already on its way to you, really, to disassemble it was so damn unnessesary...

RIP one and only real Lufia 2 Prototype. Mankind was too dump to preserve you.

I just saw MottZilla also gave this advice to the other unexperienced user with the Lufia II US Proto. Is he insane?
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von johker » 3. August 2012, 07:31

You could always ask d4s or ikari_01. They are both very skilled people and can probably still save your proto.

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von ikari_01 » 3. August 2012, 08:14

Maybe. :) What happened?
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Svambo » 3. August 2012, 08:18

Just put the 40Mbit Overdumps online and let us take a look at them. Maybe we can fix the problem.

And by the way: Mottzilla is a great guy and did some really amazing things in the BS Zelda community!

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von ikari_01 » 3. August 2012, 09:09

Svambo hat geschrieben:And by the way: Mottzilla is a great guy and did some really amazing things in the BS Zelda community!
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Evan_G » 3. August 2012, 09:56

There really was no reason the SWC couldn't have dumped the game with ucon64. The retrode should also have been able to dump it without issues. Though I suppose it is too late. I wouldn't give up on it yet and sell it. You should give it to d4s and see if he can recover the data. Also, if the 40 Mb dump is correct, it is probably just the game binary mirrored once, as the prototype is 20 Mb. I'd suggest giving the 40 Mb dump to someone to check for that, although I assume ReadOnly has had a look.

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Jackhead » 3. August 2012, 17:35

I stay in contact with Readonly. He checked all dumps. Two possible issues, first there is a conection problem or my eprom reader damage the eprom(s).
I dump the eproms with the reader three times, any dump merge with the other.
So i think there is a connection Problem. But i do not really know...
I will release the dumps soon. But as i say Readonly checked it, and they are corrupt.
I do not really something wrong, but the eprom are old and fragile as hell. Unlikely i learned this for now...

Readonly tell me he do not think that the retrode 2 can dump the rom. It has a different mapper. Thats also why the SWC cant dump the rom.
But when i release the dumps, i think the community can extract many new stuff.

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von ReadOnly » 3. August 2012, 19:17

just a couple of corrections

I do not think it is a connection problem, you most likely couldn't have dumped anything then, I believe you have corrupted your eproms with inappropriate voltage. The corruption happened in the chips themselves so they did not get corrupt during transfer (aka bad dumps) they are rather good dumps of corrupt chips

other thing is I believe the swc can extract the whole rom by forcing it to dump over the usual limit. it would have then required some trivial bank manipulation to rebuild the good roms from the dumps. I don't know if retrode 2 supports this type of mapper or not, but I think it's not really important since your swc could have dumped it anyway

I am very pessimistic about the whole data recovery, I think it is lost, but I believe a lot of stuff can still be recovered from the dumps if a community of rom hackers is looking at them, fortunately this title is huge in the community heart so I am optimistic, but it could easily take years before most of what can still be recovered is, so do not hold your breath and carry on

what I can also say for sure is 1st eprom is definitely corrupt, 3rd eprom is definitely good, unsure about 2nd eprom but I'm leaning toward corrupt since it's the same model of chip as the first (nec 8Mbits eprom)

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Jackhead » 3. August 2012, 20:15

i contact d4s for help, hope and pray...
Many thanks to ReadOnly, do awesome work! :wink:

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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von Moeki » 6. August 2012, 16:12

*cries a little*
Love this game and hoped for a new experience with this dump.
I really hope it turns out well.
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Re: Dumping Lufia 2 Prototype

Beitrag von ChronoMoogle » 15. August 2012, 14:18

Any new info about the fate of this prototype?
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