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Verfasst: 10. Juli 2014, 07:23
von Evan_G
In this video, I show off most of my prototype collection (some are on loan to byuu). Enjoy!


Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 10. Juli 2014, 11:23
von Undead
for me a prototype is, if even the circuit board have some differences of the Final Version.

I mean, its easy to open a Game, put the CB out and say ist a protoype with the same Game like the final Version.

I do not say your CBs are not prototypes, but the one you say it was in a Box of prototypes and it looks like the same as the original, i wouldn't count it as a protoype.

Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 10. Juli 2014, 12:01
von Sebel
Thank you for the video. I never was into this Prototype-Stuff but it's very interesting.

Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 10. Juli 2014, 12:12
von lytron
Undead hat geschrieben:for me a prototype is, if even the circuit board have some differences of the Final Version.

I mean, its easy to open a Game, put the CB out and say ist a protoype with the same Game like the final Version.

I do not say your CBs are not prototypes, but the one you say it was in a Box of prototypes and it looks like the same as the original, i wouldn't count it as a protoype.
Prototype-CBs can be different than the final one's, like: While development, they don't know if they have to put another chip on it, so they have some extra sockets on it. The final one's are just setup to fit exactly what this game needs to have on-board. Furthermore, maybe the checksums or smaller parts of the game are different: It may look like the final game, but some bugfixes were not implemented.

I can not say much more since I had not yet the opportunity to watch Evan_G's video. ;)

Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 10. Juli 2014, 21:12
von Undead
he also say the same on his Video, that he have 1 PCB looks like an Original, but because it was in a Box with other Prototypes hes not realy sure if ist realy a Prototype.

Btw. i have 2 Prototypes too. The first is a Japanese Sample Cardridge of Super Probotector (with the Robots) and its interessting because its a Japanese Game with European Game sprites, but in all what i know, theres no different of a offical European Release.
(very old Picture)
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The other one is a big PCB (like in the Video) with Eproms of Dragon The Bruce Lee Story
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Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 11. Juli 2014, 05:44
von Evan_G
Undead hat geschrieben:for me a prototype is, if even the circuit board have some differences of the Final Version.

I mean, its easy to open a Game, put the CB out and say ist a protoype with the same Game like the final Version.

I do not say your CBs are not prototypes, but the one you say it was in a Box of prototypes and it looks like the same as the original, i wouldn't count it as a protoype.
Yeah, I certainly don't count the ones that are retail PCBs as prototypes. I included them in my video because they were included in the lot I bought.

Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 11. Juli 2014, 07:24
von lytron
Evan_G hat geschrieben:Yeah, I certainly don't count the ones that are retail PCBs as prototypes. I included them in my video because they were included in the lot I bought.

It is really problematic to judge if something is a final version "prototype" or just a retail version with Stickers put on it, if the board doesn't give a clue. But, I think, your definition of prototype that judges the content is the best way to distinguish them. Whether "pre-release Version" would be more fitting. But the content the reason you collect them, I guess, not just hoarding final Versions on weird boards as a nerdy way of capital investment. ;)

Re: My prototype collection

Verfasst: 11. Juli 2014, 07:48
von Evan_G
lytron hat geschrieben:
Evan_G hat geschrieben:Yeah, I certainly don't count the ones that are retail PCBs as prototypes. I included them in my video because they were included in the lot I bought.

It is really problematic to judge if something is a final version "prototype" or just a retail version with Stickers put on it, if the board doesn't give a clue. But, I think, your definition of prototype that judges the content is the best way to distinguish them. Whether "pre-release Version" would be more fitting. But the content the reason you collect them, I guess, not just hoarding final Versions on weird boards as a nerdy way of capital investment. ;)
I wouldn't say it is that problematic. I dump every single prototype I get and compare them with the final version. The three PCBs that I showed are identical to the commercial release, though. Those ones are not ambiguous. It isn't even like those Earthbound "prototypes" where someone hand-soldered a production ROM chip onto a production board. These are literally the same as ones that you would find on the assembly line. If it weren't for the fact that these were highly probable to have been used for review (they are US boards with Japanese writing on the label, and came from Japan), I'd write them off as being nothing.

Of course, any prototype can easily be faked, and unless you establish the history of their origin, it is not worth paying a lot. This is the problem I have with those Earthbound samples selling for 4 figures - they could easily be faked. From time to time you do encounter fake prototypes - there are a ton of them on Yahoo Japan Auctions right now. I didn't even pick up on it until he posted some competition cart "prototype". I save every prototype that I see just to keep track of history. DreamTR sold off a couple hundred SNES prototypes that are now scattered around amongst many sellers. By having an archive, I know which ones to avoid, as they are highly likely to be the nearly the same as final.

Re: SNES Central videos

Verfasst: 10. August 2014, 14:39
von Evan_G
New video up, here I show my SNES collection.


Re: SNES Central videos

Verfasst: 12. August 2014, 12:30
von Sebel
THX for the Video. Nice littel collection :)